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| D: |
What did you think of Alexander Salkind when you met him? |
| Tom: |
I thought he was, um, when he wanted to be, an incredibly, charming,
short charlatan. The very first meeting we had was in the Grand
hotel which was his castle in Zurich. He liked to travel as little
as possible because I gather he paid the governor of Costa Rica
for a diplomatic passport. He was cultural attaché to Switzerland
for Costa Rica which made him immune from arrest in Europe but he
was not in this country [U.S.A.] which is why he never came to any
of the openings because he was wanted on several charges on financial
misdemeanours and the FBI said: "A cultural attaché
from Costa Rica to Switzerland doesn't cut any ice over here."
Anyway, the first time me and Dick wanted Goldie Hawn to play Miss
Teschmacher and Goldie agreed and she wanted the same money as Gene
Hackman which was too much, and they were not going to pay it. She
wanted two million dollars, a million a picture. Second choice was
Ann Margaret who wanted five hundred thousand per picture, she agreed,
one million for both. We were very happy with Valerie Perrine and
she did a great job, so Valerie was third choice and she wanted
$250,000, by the way, these figures are not accurate but they went
down like that - so we are at the Grand Hotel in Zurich and Pierre
Spengler, their hatchet man, and Pierre was very charming, but they
use to saddle him with all the dirty jobs like when bad news had
to be broken, anyway Pierre came running in from some phone bank
and he said "We've just made a deal with Ann Margaret for Miss
Teschmacher", and we said, "Oh Alex, thank you so much".
And he said, "You see Mr Mankiewicz and Mr Donner, the money
you make me spend", and we're all toasting each other. An hour
later, Pierre runs back in and says, "We've just made a deal
with Valerie Perrine."
I said, "Wait a minute, didn't you just say you made a deal
with Ann Margaret?" And Alex retorted, "She can sue".
Okay, we're in for it here guys and we were warned because of what
happened on the Three/Four Musketeers when they tried to
pay the actors for one movie not two. They were told they were making
one movie. Both Dick and I had our salary paid Escrow in a Swiss
Bank. So a certain amount was released to me and Dick every Monday
morning.
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| D: |
What about Pierre Spengler? |
| Tom: |
I thought Pierre did yeoman duty. He was saddled with all the dirty
work but he knew more about making a film than Ilya and Alex did.
Pierre was very limited in his authority. He could not make a decision
i.e. I need three more days to finish this, or that scene, it wasn't
up to Pierre, that went to Zurich and, by the way, it happens all
the time, I think the Salkinds promised their investors much more
than they could deliver and they were in desperate need of more
money and desperately needed to get this picture over and done with
as quickly as possible and still have a wonderful picture, if they
could. My God, they spent a lot of money by the time Dick came on
and they had to pay Guy off a very healthy salary and they had to
start from scratch from set design and everything else.
So they had spent a lot of money and that was the basic problem,
Dick, during the whole film, never saw a budget and they kept saying,
"You are over budget." Dick kept saying, "What is
the fucking budget? Tell me how much money you guys got and how
many days?" Or, as he used to say, "I tell you what, I'll
schedule the rest of the picture for two days and I'll be nine months
over, what am I suppose to do?" I've never actually saw in
my forty years working in any job where a director never saw the
budget.
There was one day where they were trying to make things look better
for the investors and Warners, of course, were starting to pump
in more money because they were seeing the rushes and were saying,
"Hey, this could be a very good movie."
The super villains break into the White House, where they come through
the ceiling and the marines are firing at them, I think that was
scheduled for half a day and Dick said, "Are you outta your
mind? First of all, if they fly through wrong the first time, we
will have to put the dome back, this is two days, even in television
it's two days, you got a gun battle, machine gun fire, we got stuff
flying all over the place, you can't schedule this for a half a
day!". It was like that every day.
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| D: |
And then you have Ilya Salkind. Was the creative guy? Promotions
guy?
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| Tom: |
Promotions guy, and this isn't any antipathy to the Salkinds, but
I don't remember any creative input from the them at all.
There was a time when the old man, with everything going on, considered
me as co-producer, and I flew down to Zurich and he said to me,
"Every time Mr Donner", he always called him Mr Donner
and he always called me Mr Mankiewicz, anyway he said, "Every
time me and Mr Donner have an argument you'd be siding with Mr Donner",
and I said "That's probably true, Alex, because he knows how
to make a picture, he really does."
I give you an interesting story: I found Alexander Salkind very
charming but I didn't have to work for him in the capacity that
Dick did, but that trip to the Grand Altar was just to meet him
and talk about this or how the picture was going. I had in my contract
that where ever I went I had a suite because I can't live in one
room and I prefer to write in the hotel, much easier than the studio,
and I don't want to bore you but I actually like to write in bed,
and I remember the agent saying, "Don't let the Salkinds ever
take one thing from you, if they do then they'll take more".
I go to the Grand Altar and have a single room and it's a beautiful
room. I'm just down there for a meeting, it doesn't matter to me.
The phone rings, it's Alex, he says, "Mr Mankiewicz, you see
what your friend, Mr Donner is doing to us, here I am in my single
room calling you in your single room", so he says "I'll
meet you at six o clock at the bar". So I go down the centre
staircase and I can hear Alex yelling in Deutsche, whatever, and
I go down the hall like a cheap nosey guy and there he is talking
to all these investors in a big suite! So at 'six o clock' we have
a drink and I say to Alex, BTW, it's just a little thing, why did
you call me and say that I'm calling you from my single room to
your single room because you are in rooms 260 to 275 [laughs]. Why
would you lie about such a little thing like that and he said to
me, "I can't help it." [pause] I thought it was very disarming
and very charming. It was his style of life.
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| D: |
Right, so, Richard Lester came on board and Dick liked him.
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| Tom: |
That was a very complicated deal, and this is as far as I knew,
I and Lester had talks: The Salkinds owed him a great deal of money
for Musketeers. He sued them and won but he won against a Bahamian
company which was broke and he wasn't getting any money, and Richard
had a reputation for shooting fast. It was in the back of their minds
that he was going to be the "ace in the hole" if they ever
got to Donner who had called them assholes in print. The deal was
going to be, finish the picture and we'll pay you the money we owe
you. I quite like Dick Lester and I also think he was bad casting
for Superman because he's also very sophisticated, cynical guy, and
as far as I know, after the picture, Lester called Donner and said
"We should share credit, you've already shot 70% of it"
and Donner said "No, I don't share credit". Lester was in
a strange position, unless he shot like 40 -50 % of the picture he
wouldn't get credit, so they shot new scenes and cut out a lot of
scenes that all ready been shot.
Lester asked me to come back to the picture and Terry Semel came
down to my office and I told him, "You know I can't do that,
Dick is my friend." He then said, "Could you go to London
and accidentally arrange to run into Dick Lester and have dinner
with him and talk about it?" I said "I can't do that"
And Terry said "I understand" and wasn't any slight to
Dick Lester, I have a lot of respect for him.
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| D: |
In later years, did you feel you should've gone back? |
| Tom: |
No, friendship is more important than anything. And Dick brought
me on the picture and my loyalty was with Dick and I couldn't believe
that they fired him.
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